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The Cognitive Revolution

A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years.

Nathan Labenz Show homepage 1 episode
19 September 20261 h 42 min

Deployment is outpacing the instruments to inspect models

With Zvi Mowshowitz, Lukas Petersson, Cameron Berg, Malcolm Collins, Prakash Narayanan, Axel Backlund, Justin McCarthy, Nathan Labenz (outro), Simone Collins, Prakash Narayanan

Zvi Mowshowitz says the real story behind the pacing debate is that people at the labs genuinely see dramatic improvement in internal models and are freaking out about it.

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